In this episode we talk to Clemens Striebing about the book that he co-edited called "Diversity and Discrimination in Research Organizations" (link below).
We talked about the difference between discimination and diversity, and why that matters, because often we actually talk about anti-discrimination initiatives when we talk about diversity, and that is making the discussion unclear.
We also talk about leadership and management, and how New Public Management has impacted how research organisations work with diversity.
The books has chapters on internationalisation and countries around the world, so we had a good chat about internationalisation and it's role and finally the role of research managers and administrators in this work.
This is an important work and as always we thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. Clemens and the other writers of this book are doing important work for moving the conversation and the practical work on discrimination and diversity.
We can only recommend you give the book a read - once you have finished listening to the podcast episode of course.
You can find the book here: https://books.emeraldinsight.com/book/detail/diversity-and-discrimination-in-research-organizations/?k=9781801179591
You can follow Clemens on Twitter : https://twitter.com/CStriebing
This episode was edited by Arthur Deligne.

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